This saddle is going to a good friend, Kade Martin, in Wyoming. This is my first fully tooled saddle. Want to say thanks to both Cary Schwarz and Bob Park for putting out such great products to help those of us that aren't as artistically gifted. This saddle is built on a Keith Gertsch tree. Dimensions: 16 1/2" seat, 6 3/8" x 5 5/8" horn, 91.5* bars, 5" shovel cantle. This turned out to be about all I could handle while attending vet school. I finished it just in time for finals and I know my wife is happy it's done cause now she gets her husband back in the evenings and on the weekends.